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Université du Maine

Faculté des Lettres et Sciences Humaines

Filière Didactique des Langues

Avenue Olivier Messiaen

72085 Le Mans


Marie-Thérèse VASSEUR

Professor,  Université du Maine, France

Directeur de Recherche, Université Paris Descartes, France

To whom it may concern.

This is to confirm that I have read Anne-Marie Rohan’s book  Beyond Talk on how to apply Conversation  Analysis in the foreign language classroom  and I can say that  it is particularly interesting and of great interest for ESL students,  especially those  coming from  countries  with cultures contrasting very much with the english-speaking  countries. I therefore warmly recommend the publication of this book which should be a very useful tool for students and teachers as well.

Paris,  July  30 , 2007

Marie-Thérèse VASSEUR

Numa Markee
Associate Professor
Division of English as an International Language
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
3070, Foreign Languages Building
707, S. Mathews
Urbana, IL 61801



I am writing to recommend Beyond Talk by Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan as an  innovative and ground breaking set of materials that merits commercial publication.

I obtained a copy of these materials several years ago when they were being circulated among the conversation analysis community and was impressed by the depth of the empirical grounding of the materials in everyday talk-in-interaction and by the pedagogical sophistication of the author in making such materials accessible to both teachers and students. I believe that they would be quite successful in the S/FL publishing market and would fill a gap the teaching of conversational language.

I therefore recommend these materials unreservedly.

Numa Markee


From Andrea Golato
Sent Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:27 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject: Beyond Talk
Dear Anna-Marie,Thank you for your email.

It is absolutely great news  that you are thinking of re-publishing Beyond Talk. Beyond Talk is a fantastic resource as it is the only book I have ever seen that uses findings from conversation analytic research to teach conversation.  All other books proclaiming to teach/practice conversation simply work with students through various current newspaper articles or short stories or otherwise have students practice with invented dialogues (which typically are very poorly written and do not reflect actual conversational practices). When I have discussed your book in courses on the acquisition and teaching of pragmatics in our Second Language Acquisition and Teacher Education Program (SLATE) here at UIUC, it has always been met with much enthusiasm by the students in the program. These future TESOL teachers or teachers of other languages have always asked me how they can order this book or if something similar exists for other languages.  Now I will be able to refer at least the first group to a source.  That’s excellent! As you know, I also teach in our undergraduate German language program and I wish a similar book were available for our conversation courses.  I have been very tempted to “copy” the basic premise of your book and to write a similar one for German as I believe there to be a great need for such work. Please let me know when the book will be available and where as I will certainly purchase a copy myself and will make sure that our libraries acquire the book as well.



Andrea Golato
Associate Professor of German, Linguistics,
and English as an International Language

Dept. of Germanic Languages and Literatures
University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign
2090 FLB
707 S. Mathews Ave
Urbana, IL 61801 USA


From Johannes Wagner
Sent Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:05 am
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Beyond Talk
Dear Anne-Marie,
I am happy to learn that there is an initiate to reprint your book ‘Beyond Talk’. It has always been difficult to get hold of it from outside Australia, which is a real shame since it represents an unique concept for teaching communication in the foreign language classroom. There are very few textbooks available which teach the nuts and bolts of spoken communication from an empirical background and none of them are as systematic and comprehensive as your book.
I think a more extensive marketing would markedly raise the sales numbers for ‘Beyond talk’ and I hope the publisher will make use of the general interest for spoken communication in the language teaching world.Best wishes for great success.Johanes Wagner
Professor dr. phil
Department for Business Languages, Communication and Information Science
University of Southern Denmark
DK 6000 Kolding
Engstien 1


From Jean Wong
Sent Friday, July 27, 2007 11:29 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Beyond Talk
Dear Anne Marie,Your ESL/EFL textbook, Beyond Talk, has been an extremely useful book that attempts to link insights and findings in conversation analysis with language pedagogy. It is probably one of the first, if not the first, published ESL/EFL textbook of its kind, getting students to think about sequences, turns, adjacency pairs, etc. as part of the language learning process. Traditional ESL/EFL textbooks do not pay attention to these considerations; they are not up-to-date with the research i.e., not looking ahead to the future.I have used excerpts from Beyond Talk in my graduate TESL classes. The students like your materials and find them very accessible and innovative.
I have also recommended Beyond Talk at the discussion sessions that I have done as an invited presenter at the annual convention of TESOL. I ‘ll be recommending your book again at another discussion session, hosted by the Applied Linguistics Interest Section, at the upcoming TESOL convention in New York City in April 2008. It is unfortunate, however, that whenever I mention your book at the TESOL discussion sessions, I have to tell audience participants that the book is now out of print. Is there any way that you can republish this very valuable textbook along with its accompanying videotape (and formatted for use in USA)?Thank very much for your attention.Sincerely,

Jean Wong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Special Education, Language and Literacy
The College of New Jersey
P.O. Box 7718
Ewing, NJ 08628-0718
Department: 609 771-2308
Work facsimile: 609 637-5172


From Johanna Rendle-Short
Sent Wednesday, August 1, 2007 3:32 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Beyond Talk
Hi Anne-Marie,I would just like to tell you how useful I found Beyond Talk. I have used it with university international ESL students on a number of occasions and they found it very enlightening. It gave them a whole new perspective on how to look at everyday conversation in a way that they had not previously been able to do. Having the audio version and the transcripts that go with the tapes was great. Students found it fascinating. I have also on more than one occasion recommended Beyond Talk to other academics both those teaching English, and for teachers of other languages, to give them ideas as to how they can approach the topic of language instruction through an interactional approach. A number of my research students have used the ideas from Beyond Talk in furthering their own teaching. My copy of Beyond Talk is currently lent out – as per usual, because it is not readily available. If it is at all possible to have it published in an accessible way, I am sure there would be a ready market of language teachers (particularly other than English) who would like to use it in their own teaching.




Dr Johanna Rendle-Short

Linguistics and Applied Linguistics Program

School of Language Studies

Australian National University


CRICOS Provider #00120C


From “Emanuel A. Schegloff”
Sent Friday, August 3, 2007 7:38 am
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Re: Beyond Talk
Dear Anne-Marie,For many years now I have been struck by the very special interest conversation-analytic work has elicited from Applied Linguisticsstudents, and, in particular, students whose native language is other than English. At UCLA, this has more often than not been the case for students from the countries of East Asia — from Japan, China, Korea, Thailand, etc. One element of this attraction, I have come to believe, is the role Conversation Analysis (CA) plays in their progressive mastery of English. Most of our graduate students have gone about as far as they can go in mastering English by the end of their first year of graduate studies, building, of course, on their previous course work and lived experience devoted to learning the language; their efforts to make further progress by the traditional methods of language pedagogy seem to have been frustrated. It has occurred to me that one attraction CA has had for them — aside (of course) from its appeal as a method of research — has been analytically-informed access to how language is actually employed in the course of mundane, daily activities. The gap between ordinary ESL pedagogy and CA finding has been clearly demonstrated in Jean Wong’s paper on telephone conversation openings in the International Review of Applied Linguistics in Language Teaching in 2002, but surely this is a mere bump on the small part of the iceberg that is above the surface.I write all of this because it makes good sense of the receipt accorded your book “Beyond Talk.” It taps into the resource that CA provides for already partially-launched learners of English in grasping in a perspicuous fashion how the language is actually used to do things in ordinary interaction. It would be a considerable service were this resource again made available both to the research community and to the pedagogical community. I look forward to your success in this undertaking.

With best wishes,

Emanuel A. Schegloff
Distinguished Professor of Sociology and Applied LinguisticsUCLA

fax: 310-206-9838
web: <>


School of Education and

Professional Studies (Brisbane, Logan)

Mt Gravatt campus, Griffith University

170 Kessels Road

Nathan, Queensland 4111



Beyond Talk, by Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan and Ruth Pritchard, which was originally published more that ten years ago, was groundbreaking work that was ahead of its time, and not sufficiently recognised in its day. It was the first publication that attempted to use the  findings of Conversation Analysis to teach  some of the structures of conversation, such as turn-taking, adjacency pairs and preference organisation, but in a student friendly and  non-technical way. As someone who taught CA (Conversation Analysis) to both of the authors in the postgraduate work, I was first thrilled that  they had produced such an innovative publication, and subsequently disappointed with the relative lack of response to the work at the time, due largely to a widespread lack of knowledge of the potential of applying CA to language teaching and learning.

The intervening years have shown that CA does indeed have this potential in spades, and I would  very much welcome the reprinting of the book, in the hope that it will finally attract the recognition that it deserves.


Rod Gardner

Associate Professor

Education and Professional Studies

Griffith University

Mount Gravatt Campus


Australian National University – ANU

Dr Chantal Crozet

School of Language Studies

Canberra ACT 0200 Australia

French programme & Applied linguistics programme

LIFT Director


Re: Letter of reference in support of the re-publication of Barraja-Rohan, A-M., & Pritchard, C.R. (1997) Beyond Talk: A course in communication and conversation for intermediate adult learners of English. Melbourne: Western Melbourne Institute of TAFE Publishing Service


To whom it may concern

The teaching of conversation is a poorly developed area of language teaching.

The work of Barraja-Rohan & Pritchard in Beyond Talk is as relevant and needed today as it was when it was first published in 1997.

It is a ground-breaking approach to the teaching of everyday conversation which has not been matched by any other work  in this specific domain.

Beyond Talk incorporates naturally occurring everyday speech  and Conversation Analysis (CA) as a theoretical framework in the development of the teaching material it offers.

Its aim is to raise students’ linguistic/language & cultural awareness of what is involved in being able to converse effectively in English.

It is not only a unique resource for the teaching of English conversation; it is also an inspiration for the teaching of conversation in all other languages.

I highly recommend the re-publication of Beyond talk.

Dr Chantal Crozet

School of Language Studies

Australian National University


From Irene Koshik
Sent Friday, August 3, 2007 3:24 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Re: Beyond Talk
Dear Ann-Marie,I was happy to hear that you’re working on getting Beyond Talk reprinted. As far as I know, it’s the only ESOL textbook that’s based on naturally-occurring talk and on conversational practices discovered through conversation analytic research. Because of this, I regularly recommend Beyond Talk in my course, Language and Social Interaction, a core course in our MA TESL program at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The textbook has helped many MA TESL students understand how they can design lessons using conversation analytic principles in order to teach sociocultural competence. Two of my students made use of Beyond Talk in their masters theses. They each researched different aspects of pragmatic competence, showing how many popular ESOL textbooks provide students with inaccurate information because they are based on native speaker intuition, not research on naturally-occurring talk. Both students used Beyond Talk when suggesting ways to teach the competencies they were focusing on. In fact, the first student, Suzanne Bernsten, was the one who introduced me to the textbook. She discovered and ordered the only U.S. copy of Beyond Talkthrough interlibrary loan.Since that time, she and I have introduced the book to other conversation analysts who are interested in making the results of conversation analytic research available to ESL teachers. It would be very helpful for us if the book were reprinted and available in the U.S.All the best,

Irene Koshik

Associate Professor

Division of English as an International Language

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


From David Olsher
Sent Thursday, August 9, 2007 4:55 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Beyond Talk textbook
Dear Anne-Marie,I am writing in reference to your oral communication skills textbook, Beyond Talk, which I hope will be published once again and available to language students and language educators soon. As you know, Jean Wong and I have made reference to Beyond Talk at the International TESOL Conventions in recent years in Discussion Sessions we have led on “Conversation Analysis and Teaching Oral Skills,” as an example of effective pedagogical applications of research findings from Conversation Analytic studies on everyday talk. At the 2007 TESOL Convention in Seattle, Jean and I also provided sample pages from Beyond Talk as part of our paper on teaching conversational response tokens, such as “yeah” and “okay,” because your book provides an excellent example of accessible and engaging teaching materials that apply research findings and use authentic samples of conversation in activities designed to teach English learners the ways language is actually used within social interaction. This is something that is unfortunately lacking in the profusion of published English teaching materials, despite some thirty years of Conversation Analysis (CA) research that is well established and widely respected in Linguistics, Sociology, TESOL, and related fields. I also used samples from Beyond Talk in my Spring 2007 M.A. TESOL seminar on Pragmatics and Teaching Oral Communication, because it provides an excellent example of well-designed materials employing an awareness-raising approach, which is strongly supported by research on teaching and learning pragmatic language skills. My only regret in citing and using examples from Beyond Talk has been that is currently out of print and unavailable for purchase by language educators, language students, and teacher trainers.Your textbook and accompanying audiovisual materials is the only example I have seen of fully developed and easily usable course materials that apply actual research findings on talk and interaction within the research-proven pedagogical approach of pragmatic awareness raising. I would urge those who control the publication rights to Beyond Talk to take whatever action is needed to see this back in print and available to as wide an audience of English language educators and learners as possible. This would be a great service to the field of TESOL and would certainly bring prestige to those associated with the publication and distribution of this book.


Dr. David Olsher

Assistant Professor
English Department, M.A. TESOL Program
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, California 94132

Office: Humanities 521
Phone:(415) 338-2827


Castellón de la Plana, 25 September 2007

Re: Letter of reference in support of the re-publication of Barraja-Rohan, A-M., & Pritchard, C.R. (1997) Beyond Talk: A course in communication and conversation for intermediate adult learners of English. Melbourne: Western Melbourne Institute of TAFE Publishing Service.

To whom it may concern

I would just like to tell you how useful I found Beyond Talk. I have used it with university international ESL students on a number of occasions and they found it very enlightening. It gave them a whole new perspective on how to look at everyday  conversation in a way that they had not previously been able to do.

Having the audio version and the transcripts that go with the tapes was great.  Students found it fascinating.  I have also on more than one occasion recommended  Beyond Talk to other academics both those teaching English, and for teachers of other languages, to give them ideas as to how they can approach the topic of language instruction through an interactional approach. A number of my research students have used the ideas from Beyond Talk in furthering their own teaching. My copy of Beyond Talk is currently lent out – as per usual, because it is not readily available.

If it is at all possible to have it published in an accessible way, I am sure there would be a ready market of language teachers (particularly other than English) who would l ike to use it in their own teaching.

Dr. Eva Alcón Soler

Vicerrector Internacional Cooperation and solidarity

University Jaume I, Castellón (Spain)

Campus Universitario

Avd Sos Baynat sn

12080 Spain


From Thorsten Huth
Sent Wednesday, August 1, 2007 5:53 am
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Re: applying CA to the classroom – See “Beyond Talk” (1997)
Dear Anne,Thank you very much for your email.You must have been quite puzzled that we did not acknowledge your 1997 course book – Beyond Talk. Be assured: Had we been familiar with it, we would have done so. Unfortunately, we were only aware of your one article we cite at the time we wrote the paper. You can imagine our surprise at your emailSince receiving it, I have tried to get my hands on the book, however to no avail so far. While I am finding entries in the extended library system, I cannot find available copies in circulation, nor is it available for purchase, which is odd and makes me wonder about distribution. Whatever the reason, your book appears to be hard to come by in the U.S. Since we would very much like to read it, we wonder if you might have electronic copies of the manuscript? That would be very helpful.We hope this email finds you well and answers the questions you may have had. We are looking forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Thornsten Huth

Southern Illinois University – USA


From Carmen Taleghani-Nikazm
Sent Monday, August 13, 2007 12:09 pm
To AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Subject Your book “Beyond Talk”
Dear Anne-Marie,My name is Carmen Taleghani-Nikazm and I teach German Applied Linguistics at the Department of Germanic Languages and Literatures at OSU. I’m writing this email to ask you about your book “Beyond Talk: A course in communication and conversation for intermediate adult learners of English”.  I’ve tried to find a copy of the book, but to no avail so far. Even our Interlibrary Loan (which is one of the best systems in the US) had no success in locating your book. The book is also not available for purchase in the US, which is rather unfortunate. I will be teaching a German Conversation Course in the upcoming academic year and need to develop instructional materials for this course (there are no textbooks in German that teach conversational strategies). Since your book uniquely offers instructional strategies for teaching L2 socio-cultural norms of interaction, and has been recommended to me by colleagues, I would very much like to read and to get some ideas. I was wondering if you might have some suggestions on how to get hold of the book!  Thank you in advance.

Best wishes,

Carmen Taleghani-Nikazm

Carmen Taleghani-Nikazm

Associate Professor
Co-director and Coordinator of Undergraduate German Language Instruction
Department of Germanic Languages and Literatures
The Ohio State University
Hagerty Hall 425
1775 College Road
Columbus, OH 43210-1340


More comments and requests


Dear Anne-Marie,

Earlier this year, I think February, we got into contact with each other after your query to language-use list about troubles-talk between native and nonnative speakers. Meanwhile I‘ve read  that you are the co-author of a very interesting new course-book. The very interesting thing about it is the CA-approach apparently underlying the book. Since I am involved in the teaching of Dutch to nonnative speakers of that language, I am particular interested in the underlying philosophy of the book: it may be inspiring for an analogous Dutch course-book. Is it possible at all to send me some background information relating to the book? Or have you published this somewhere?

Thanks in advance

Jo van den Hauwe

co-ordinator Dutch courses

University of Antwerp


Prinsstraat 13

B-2000 Antwerpen



Subject: your book

Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:40:24 +0100 (DST)

From: Michael Pickering

To: a.barraja-rohan

I read your mail on language use list with interest. Is your book in print?

It would be interesting to see it – could you perhaps send me details?


Michael Pickering.



Subject: your book

Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:40:18 -0500

From: “Cecilia E. Ford”

To: a.barraja-rohan


I read your message to one of the lists (Ethno or Lang – Use – don’t remember) regarding CA and language teaching. Can you give me a complete reference to

your book _Beyond Talk_?  I couldn’t find that title here.

My interest is two fold – 1) I am on a project looking at interactional skills in highschool classes, and we need references on how interaction can be taught,

2) I teach CA to graduate students whose main interest is second language teaching – so it would be great to show them this kind of application.

Thanks for your help (and for the great note to the list – whichever list it was!),

Ceci  Ford

Cecilia E. Ford

Department of English

600 N. Park Street

University of Wisconsin-Madison

Madison, WI  53706


Subject: Re: Beyond Talk

Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:18:19 +1000

From: Tony.Liddicoat

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan

Hi Anne-Marie

We used your conversation and it went well. We showed the kit around and there were some interested people.

I don’t know if they’ll end up buying it, because that depends on their school funds, but they thought it was a really interesting approach.

Best wishes



Dr Tony Liddicoat

Director, Language Inservice for Teachers Program

Department of Linguistics

The Faculties

Australian National University

Canberra ACT 0200


Subject: review BEYOND TALK

Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 08:32:30 +1000

From: Ruth Wajnryb

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan

Dear Anne-Marie,

Yes of course I received the package.  I did eventually do a thorough reading/viewing etc.

Must say it’s impressive. Innovative and fresh approach, long overdue.

A week ago I lent it to a few colleagues and they’re now using it as an important part of the course they’re teaching

– I’m waiting on feedback from them which I’d like to incorporate into the review.. so it’s coming along…

Best wishes


R. Wajnryb,

Director, TesolCafe


Subject: Beyond Talk

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:43:02 +0000

From: Barbara Clements

Organization: Charles Sturt University

To: a.barraja-rohan

I attended your presentation in Brisb. Can you let me know if the conversation kit has been  published yet and how to order it?

Our bookshop can’t find any record of its existence!

Thanks a lot

Barbara C



Re: Beyond Talk

Date: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:54:13 +1300

From: “Philippa Fox”

Organization: UNITEC Institute of Technology

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan

Dear Anne-Marie

I did so enjoy your presentation at the ELICOS conference at Brisbane and I am eagerly awaiting your video and book which I think we have placed an order for. Could you possibly let me know if the book and video is available yet and where?  I’m not sure that we placed the order correctly.   Is there any chance I can fast track anything while I’m there?

All the best

Philippa Fox

Philippa Fox


School of Languages


Private Bag 92025

Auckland                 Fax: 64 (09) 8152906

New Zealand



Re: your mail

Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:04:22 +0900

From: Donald Carroll

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan


I added your book to my “ASAP book order list” as soon as I saw it announced.  I was surprised at the price though.

Unfortunately, at that price it will probably not get the wide spread use such a book deserves.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to seeing your book.


Donald Carroll

International Communication Program

Shikoku Gakuin University

Fax: +81 877 63 432


Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:02:26 -0700

From: Derek Duerden

To: “‘a.barraja-rohan

Subject: Beyond Talk

Dear Anne-Marie,

I’ve just read your insightful comments on the Lang-Use mailing list, concerning CA and its application in the ESL classroom.

I have just completed grad school, where I focussed almost entirely on CA, but have returned to teaching ESL, and am now attempting to combine the two,

obviously in my conversation classes.  I am interested in the book you mention in your post – Beyond Talk.

Could you possibly e-mail me the publisher or any other information that will enable me to hunt down a copy, here in Canada.

Thank you!

Jan Duerden

ESL Department

University College of the Cariboo

Kamloops, BC, Canada


Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:25:54 +1000 (EST)

From: Robert Parbs

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan

Subject: Re: Conversation workshop to TESL graduates

Dear Anne-Marie,

I look forward to hearing from you.  I think your materials are wonderful and I’d love to see them introduced to our TESOL students.


Robert Parbs

From: Robert Parbs

To: ‘A Barraja-Rohan’

Date: Thursday, 12 August 1999 15:09

Dear Anne-Marie

I’m now at the University of South Australia. I’ve been raving about your videos and materials on speaking/conversation skills to people here,

and our department wants to buy a copy of them. Is this possible?

Please let me know.


Robert Parbs



Re: conversation course book

Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:59:51 +0800

From: Winnie Cheng

To: Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan

Dear Anne-Marie,

Congragulations on your new release.

I’ve given the information about your book to my colleague who is responsible for purchasing teaching resources for the department.  I’m not sure whether the

system requires that review is needed before putting in an acquisition order.

I may need to get back to you later on.

Thanks and best wishes,

Winnie Cheng

Hong Kong



Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:09:40 + 1000

From: “BROOKS Barbara”












Subject: conversation analysis and teaching English to speakers of other languages

Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:46:19 +1000

From: Barb Brooks

To: a.barraja-rohan


When I emailed you last year re you paper “Teaching Conversation and Sociocultural Norms with Conversation analysis” you mentioned that you were in the process of producing a course using conversation analysis to teach English, I was wondering whether this book is available and how I might get a copy. I am fascinated by this approach and think that it has enormous potential for effective teaching so I am anxious to follow up your work.


Barbara Brooks


From:   R. Ferguson

Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2000 15:47

To: A Barraja-Rohan

Subject:  teaching conversation

Hi Anne-Marie,

Basically, I am doing an independent study uni this semester, which gives me a chance to delve more deeply into an aspect of ESOL I’m interested in.

I’ve chosen to research the issue of teaching conversation, partly because of my previous teaching experience which showed me that this seems to be

an area not well described in current textbooks, and partly because in reading your articles (in ‘Striving for the Third Place’ and ‘Learning Language Learning Culture’)  I was impressed with your approach. Unfortunately, you are the only author I’ve come across who’s attempted to analyse, describe and ‘teach’ conversation. Neither does my uni library stock your course book (yet!).

However, I’m sure there must be others out there who are also doing useful things in this area.

What can you recommend me?

I would like to purchase your course book (and any accompanying material).

Can you please send me whatever information I need in this regard?

I might also see if the Uni library will purchase a copy/set too.

Thanks for your trouble.
Rebecca Ferguson


From: Suzanne graham Bernsten

Sent: A. Barraja-Rohan

Date: Wednesday, 25 July 2001 8:22 AM

Subject: Beyond Talk: a course in communication and conversation

for intermediate adult learners of English

Dear Ms. Barraja-Rohan,

I am a graduate student at University of Illinois getting my Master’s in TESOL. I am currently starting work on a Master’s thesis about applying the principles

of conversation analysis to language teaching. I am interested in the book that you wrote with Ruth Pritchard. However, it is very difficult to find a copy in the US. Could you tell me how I could order your book?

Thank you.

Suzanne Bernsten

United States


From:                “Suzanne Bernsten”

To: “Anne-Marie Barraja-Rohan”

Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2002 1:30 am

Subject:            RE: Beyond Talk: a course in communication and conversation to intermediate learners of English

Dear Anne-Marie,

I wrote you this summer asking about the possibility of ordering Beyond Talk textbook that you wrote. Since then I have had the opportunity to see a copy of the book through interlibrary loan (another university in Illinois has a copy of the book). I was very excited to have a chance to see the book as I am also interested in the potential of incorporating insights from CA into language teaching. I am writing my master’s thesis at University of Illinois on pre-sequences in invitation, offer, and request dialogues in ESL textbooks. In my thesis, I am examining dialogues in different textbooks (including dialogues in your textbook) to see whether they include pre-sequences and if there is any explicit teaching about pre-sequences. I am also writing a section of my thesis on possible pedagogical applications of CA to language teaching. I have read some of the articles that you have written in the Australian Review of Applied Linguistics. I agree with the rationale you provide for using CA in the language classroom. I am also wondering what kind of reaction your book had from teachers and publishers. Because it is such a new approach, were some teachers resistant to the idea of using such detailed transcripts with ESL students?

Was it hard to convince publishers that this kind of approach could really work with students?

How did students react to the approach?

Also I am interested in how you set up the conversations that are recorded in the dialogues.

Were they set up like role plays where the participants had a general idea of what they needed to discuss beforehand, but not specific lines written?

Thank you very much for your time. I was very excited to finally get the chance to see your textbook and was impressed to see an example of how CA can actually be used to teach about language.


Suzanne Bernstein


From:             “Robert Arundale”

To:                      “A. Barraja-Rohan”

Sent:               Saturday, 10 May 2003 2:32 AM

Subject:          Query on Beyond Talk

Sent:               Saturday, 10 May 2003 2:32 AM


I was looking through the articles in the most recent Journal of Pragmatics (35/4) and at your article on troubles-talk. At the very end you note a book you have

written titled Beyond Talk – a teaching methodology based on CA and politeness pragmatics. I currently have a Ph.D. student focussing on language education,

language pragmatics, facework, and communication, so I am most interested. Would you send me publication details so that we can take a good look at your approach?

Many thanks,

Bod Arundale

Robert B. Arundale, Ph.D., Professor of Communication

Department of Communication

University of Alaska Fairbanks

Fairbanks, AK 99775-5680

United States


Subject: RE: your 2nd book
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:12:58 -0500
From: Richard F Young
To: AnneMarie.BarrajaRohan
Organization: UW-Madison

Hi Anne-Marie –

Thanks for sending me a review of your book

It does sound very interesting and it’s nice to get such a positive review.

If you have a spare copy I’d be interested to read it.

With best wishes,


Professor Richard Young

Language Institute

University of Madison-Wisconsin


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Posted 08/30/2009 by ESLandCAteaching

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